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Originally Posted by MakoMike
Just for accuracy, ASMFC was not managing the stock at the time of the last collapse. Making the fish a no sale fish coastwide is against the law. But any state can do it, NJ, CT and NH already have.
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Who cares about the committee of self appointed experts called asmfc, fisherman don't.
In the early 1940s, recognizing that they could accomplish far more through cooperation rather than individual effort, the Atlantic coast states came together to form the Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission (Commission). An Interstate Compact, ratified by the states and approved by the U.S. Congress in 1942, acknowledged the necessity of the states joining forces to manage their shared migratory fishery resources and affirmed the states’ commitment to cooperative stewardship in promoting and protecting Atlantic coastal fishery resource
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If I recall the collapse was in the 1990's.
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One of the many problems with fishery management today is exactly this... There are too many managers and people involved. It's a friggin shell game and every different group has their own hidden agenda. They have created all these convoluted "rules" "limits" "quotas" "thresholds" "formulas" that lead to public hearings then committee create these so called "laws" from all this bull#^&#^&#^&#^& and they that are ineffective to the common fishermen. Bottom line is each state has regulated SB from the time I was a kid. I always thought it should be taken away from the states since the fish swims freely between them but what matters is protection. The end was doomed when they created this thing called "user groups" and this was nothing more than a divide and conquer approach clothed in "fairness" suit and it destroying the resource in front of our eyes..
We don't need all these people at the helm. We need some common sense regulations that are conservative and simple to enforce and some protection of the food these fish must eat, that is it. Stop trying to squeeze every drop of sustainable yield from the ocean...it is OK to have a little fat in the system.
If you make things complicated enough, know one really understands it and that leads to no one seems to care anymore.
Look if we hit this arbitrary threshold line...can we say that the system asmfc put in place is not working and they failed? They already admit we are going to hit it...but they are not going to do anything about it for a few years. WTF? No reason to be proactive or conservative...
Fire everyone at all levels and start over...IMO you need 5 or 6 people to manage this. 2 scientists, 2 managers and a secretary. No public hearings, no meetings, just do what is right and issue a decree.
I have to log off my BP is getting aggravated again.