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3 way rig with 3' of 20lb mono between the weight (2-5oz depending) and swivel. 2'-3' of flouro between 8/0 or 9/0-circle and swivel. You want to keep it on the bottom but just bouncing along, not sticking or you'll only be making lead donations.
I find it easier with convention gear. I've done better over the sand with eeling in the ditch but they're still focussed on the herring.
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