Had a good shot at them over the weekend. They were in close for about 10 minutes. Def within casting range, but it was not to be. I also bought a Tica last year to target these fish. You think they are frustrating from a boat, try them from shore.
I had a shot though. Did not seem to want my green metal. They were on peanuts and a variety of bait. I'm probably wasting my time, but what the hell.