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Originally Posted by buckman
You guys are freaking hilarious. Who's "we" ?? "we" 
And who the hell are you to say who deserves what ? "we"
To a lot of you this is become personal instead of about increasing the breeding population. not seeing this
Truth be told, the rec guys account for a higher percentage of the mortality of these fish then the charter and commercial guys combined. charters are recs....unless they're comm fishing with their charters which I guess also occurs...playing numbers games...if you want to look at it individually...no...man for man ....boat for boat...I'd disagree....as a group...of course/ maybe...the numbers regarding for-hire portion of the rec take seem to be constantly changing, at least here in RI to suit their needs.. and I think I cited numbers from NY that showed for-hire take as an enormous percentage of the overall rec take...but as a group recs will, in many cases, see a 50% reduction per angler per trip starting next year, true comms will see a 25%(supposedly)....and the rec-comms and for hire fleets will see ?....the illegal harvest will probably not see a reduction
It's always easier to blame someone else . starting in 2015...if a user group or region is still fishing at 2 fish and the decline continues...who gets the blame? 
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any two fish exception is nothing more than an accommodation for the 1 or 2 times per year "anglers"(as described previously and not by me) who you and others claim likely wouldn't fish if they can't keep that second fish...
this is the ONLY reason tendered as a rationale to allow clients of for hires(and I forget, are the captains and mates getting two fish too?) to keep "or to at least have the perception of the ability to keep two fish"....it's an odd sort of rationale when you examine it...probably jealousy
still want to know if shore and kayak for-hire clients get two fish under the same rationale...
Buck, you made a great point earlier I think, that those here fish more than the average angler and have a different view of the fishery...regarding rec/comm etc...consider....most average recs are not much of a threat to any bass...in the three brothers example that I offered...the guy hitting the beach on his own is unlikely to catch a bass never mind a keeper or even two....the guy fishing on a friend's boat or hiring a shore guide, again, not likely to catch...maybe one, if lucky...a keeper....put any of those three on a boat with an experienced captain that has been tracking the fish all season with the latest technology and they are suddenly a much more efficient "angler" and more likely to take two fish...I listened to and watched guys all summer who would struggle to hook up on their own in local waters make the trek to BI and land one 30-40+ pound fish after another and much of it facilitated by for hires day after day....your average rec has to work and might make that trek on an occasional weekend. Now, BI is an exception but everywhere up and down the coast that the bass show on schedule the for hire guys will sit on top of them for as long as they are there....not everyone jigs the canal all night, night in and night out and most boat owners that I know don't get out on their boat that often to great lament....it's funny each year when a thread starts about how the season was and despite all the pics and stories the consensus seems to be that most haven't fished that much or caught that much, even here where guys fish more than most....not surprising and as such most probably don't feel their impact on the fishery to be that great...juxtapose that against a desire by some of the most efficient people on the water thanks to experience and technology, who enable otherwise fairly inefficient people, wanting keep more bass simply over some perception which has likely been perpetrated over time by the for-hires own advertising and claims(the image of a bass for each fist)....it takes a lot of "average" anglers quite a few trips to do what the average for-hire can do in just one trip with a lot of "below average" anglers....not saying it's right or wrong... just trying to add perspective...it's not hate...or jealousy....just how it is....