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update
well I borrowed ross's rainshadow 1088 to see how it feels so I have some idea what I want. When I compare my 8ft ben dorr and the 1088 it is a big difference. my 8ft is just to light at the 2 0z limit and ross's is just to heavy. So now I need to find something in the middle. anyone have a good recommendation? also if you live anywhere near the Haverhill area I don't mind taking a small trip to check your set ups. I like to have hands on. thanks scott
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