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Old 07-22-2015, 01:54 AM   #23
detbuch
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Right . . . so the Chinese are responsible for the gun violence in Chicago because they invented gun powder. Right . . . . the South was actually responsible for giving blacks equal rights because it had slaves. Right . . . . Bush created ISIS because he invaded Iraq . . . or global warming created ISIS because it caused poverty in the Middle East.

It's interesting how the "liberal" mentality will claim on the one hand that Western, especially US, interference in the life of Muslim people deprives them of their right to self-determination and the right to their own dignity, while on the other hand it makes insignificant the influence of Islam in determining what Muslims do-- interesting how they insult Islamists by claiming they are motivated by what the West does rather than by their own beliefs and desires.

When people do anti-social things, liberals must find an outside agent as the cause, usually some purist "conservative" value to blame.

The idea that there is something in Islam which creates an ISIS is not fair. It is a conservative Western construct, and must be dismissed as such. Fundamental Christianity, supposedly being in the conservative fold, is, of course, the cause of all sorts of bigotry and destructive tendencies. It might actually, if root causes are traced back to origins, be the cause for the creation of ISIS. Think about it. Bush, the war monger who invaded Iraq is a Christian. Fundamentalist Christians are reputed to deny man-made global warming.

It could not be, in the political mind of the left, that the roots of ISIS can be traced back to Muhammad. And from there to Osama Bin Laden's desire to re-establish the dominance of Islam that its founder established. It could not be that the purification of Islam from its lapse into various secular Western ways is an object of not only Bin Laden, Zawahiri, Zarqawi, Baghdadi, et. al., but of all the various branches of Islamic fundamentalism--Al Qaeda and its affiliates, ISIS, the Umma, all the children of Islam that Bin Laden claimed for his global jihad. It could not be that ISIS is a spiritual descendant of Muhammad and all that followed after him. It could not be that ISIS was created by the desire to restore the power of Islam which had been crushed long before Bush or global warming, and to re-establish the beloved caliphate and to join in, even lead, the jihadists around the world in the expansion of Islam.

No, that would be unfair to the noble religion of Islam--the religion of peace. Especially so because small-minded "conservatives" make such unfounded accusations. It is retrograde fundamentalist Christians, Republicans, conservative war-mongers who stir up that reputed small minority of Muslims who, it is said, are not actually Muslims, but are some aberration created by Bush . . . or global warming. It is certainly not fair to believe that a silent majority of Muslims would actually support a re-established caliphate brought about by an aggression like that of Muhammad himself.

I could not guess what would insult a jihadist more--the invasion of Iraq or to say that he exists because of that invasion. Or, if possible, the even more ludicrous claim that he practices jihadist war because of global warming
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