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This argument/thread has jumped off the tracks. All it has proven is what we already knew. Spence is an apologist, Eben is conflicted and Jim is trying to convert people.
Get this in your heads Hilary will not be prosecuted she will probably be the Dem Nominee for president. She is divisive and she has won the money vote thus far. get used to it. The presidential election is akin to the WWE pure entertainment.
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