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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
If Trump is saying that naturally born citizens of Mexican heritage are not real Americans, that would be racist.
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Why would it be racist, Jim? Is "real American" a race? Is "Mexican" a race? Would saying something that has nothing to do with race be racist?
There are white Mexicans. There are black Mexicans. There are yellow Mexicans. There are red Mexicans. And there are mixtures of these type of Mexicans. The U.S. also has white, black, yellow, and red Americans, and mixtures of those types. So if Mexican and American are races, are they the same race? It would seem so. The same can be said of all North and South American countries and Most European countries. Apparently, if the name of those countries is a race, the members of those countries must all belong to the same race. One might generalize and call it the human race
If you say something negative about someone who is of the same race as you, would that be racist?
On the other hand, if by race we mean human groups with common genetic markers which meaningfully differentiate from those genetic markers of other human groups, then the name of countries used as racial types is ridiculous. And, indeed in that case, a given American can be a racist in regard to another American.
And, as well, a given Mexican can be a racist in regard to another Mexican. And, indeed, in the social hierarchy of Mexico, there is a preference for whiteness and a racial discrimination against "the other," as per Wikipedia:
"An important phenomenon described for some parts of Latin America such as Brazil and Mexico is "Whitening" or "Mestizaje" describing the policy of planned racial mixing with the purpose of minimizing the non-white part of the population." Mexicans can be quite racist, even, and especially, toward other Mexicans and Latin Americans. It is a Mexican policy not to allow "undocumented" immigrants to stay in Mexico. That was egregiously demonstrated when they wouldn't let the famous thousands of unaccompanied children from Honduras and Guatemala who crossed into Mexico stay there, but put them on trains to the U.S. border, dropping them there to enter this country. And that action was strongly supported by all those innocent Latino and Mexican organizations such as those in the Washington Post article that Spence posted. And those "non-political" organizations did not criticize Mexico for not helping the unaccompanied Latino children. Nor did they demand that Mexico should even take its "share." But they helped facilitate the immigration of those children into this country. And they condemned Americans who objected to keeping the children which in turn would necessitate bringing in the parents and families of those thousands of children who would all then be destined for citizenship. No, of course not . . . those various Mexican and Latino organizations had no ulterior racial or ethnic motivation in "helping" those children and their families, nor in helping all the other millions of their "race" (actually ethnicity) do well in this country. Even if it would be at the expense of other Americans. And, certainly, no one belonging to any of those apolitical, beneficent, non-discriminatory, organizations would have any bias against someone like Trump who says he wants to BUILD A FRIGGING WALL between Mexico and the U.S. And who has said things about some of their fellow ethnics which they have strongly condemned.
Anyway, Trump did not refer to a race. He referred to an ethnicity, and an ethnic heritage, in which a member of it might well be biased against him because of his statements regarding that ethnicity--NOT REGARDING ANY "RACE."