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Originally Posted by PaulS
Go do a search and see how they measure the lies - Trump was rated more dishonest then every candidate (in fact, the 3 Dem. candidates where rated less dishonest then ALL of the Repub. candidates - So I guess that invalidates the work they do).
This is part of what I mean by answering the wrong question. Arguing about who told the most lies does not answer the question of what form of government do you want. They all lie to some degree. And what are called lies are not always actual lies. And the importance and motivation of and for the lies is not compared. And the importance of the number of lies, whether more or less, is not revealed. Oh, gee golly, he told ten lies, I only told five. That makes me a better person. Or a better candidate for POTUS.
Yeah, right.
We're talking campaign politics here. Pointing out who lies more distracts from what is important. It focuses on the irrelevance of how one is more of the same than the other, and it distracts from what the important difference is.
And I'm not pointing to the "right" or "left" here. Both sides throw the lie bomb at each other. And both sides, to some degree, are right.
And I certainly don't depend on so-called fact checkers to point out who told the most lies. The lies are in my face. I can see them clearly. And I see many lies that the fact checkers seem to miss. Or choose not to cover.
I criticize Hillary but if you're left of center here you're basically a Trotskyists or a Maoist so there is little point in partaking.
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Could someone please explain what the "center" is. Is there a centrist agenda? Is there a centrist policy? Is there a centrist form of government? (Oh, it can be argued that the Constitution is a center of sorts, but who follows that outworn piece of paper?)
Trotskyism was a sort of center. Maybe between Stalinist and Leninist. Isn't Maoism the great center? Didn't Mao say "Let a hundred flowers bloom; let a hundred schools of thought contend"?
My gosh, how can we criticize the beautiful lies of such great men. After all, it was the wonderful form of government they created. That is what matters, not the lies.
So, if what hangs in the balance now, is the type of government that remains and is carried forth in the aftermath of the election, what is that type, and which candidate, or party can more likely deliver it? To me, that is the important question. Not who lies more. Nor who's better looking. Nor what gender. Nor who's more predictable. The peripheral fluff disintegrates before the force of government power. As does most everything else.
What form of government do you want?