Johnny C...I find that no matter where you go, there is always some %&#*@ idiot there to ruin everyone elses good time, and I find that there is not alot you can do about it. Your choices are these....either tell the offending %&#*@ idiot exactly how you feel, regardless of how many friends he has with him, or just move to another spot. I try to fish where there are very few people myself because I find that most people suck! I will walk a mile down a crowded beach to get away from the throngs of people who won't walk that far to fish. The lazy good for nothing %$&*# idiot fishermen tend to not stray too far from their car. They want it quick and easy and really do not want to earn their fish, where as the nice, pleasant, easy to fish next to fishermen will tend to be willing to walk and work a lot harder for their catch and their good time. I find myself getting worked up quite a bit just like yourself Johnny C, people can be miserable. Thats why before I decide to move from a spot, I always verbally lash out at the offending &#$*^ so that I do not regret having NOT spoken my mind. Some of the other guys on this site who have fished with me know what I mean. Right guys?

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