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					Originally Posted by  Jim in CT
					 
				 
				Jesus God Almighty. 
 
The reason why you don't try the "least painful" approach (which I suppose would be asking the murderers to pretty please stop), is that lives are at stake.  You don't see that?  Seriously?  This is not a hypothetical debate Paul. 
			
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 We're not talking the "least painful" to the criminals - neither you nor I care about them other to stop crime.  I'm talking about the people who live there.  We can implant a tracking device in every person and that would tell us who was close to every crime.  I don't think you would agree to that. 
The studies I have read think a # of factors contributed to a lowering of crime.  And yes, S&F did contribute.  But other things contributed more. Some of the factors had nothing to do with policing.