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					Originally Posted by  Jim in CT
					 
				 
				What you posted, says that we will work together toward goals like zero tariffs.  Perhaps (I don't know) that helps u sore than it helps them.  I watched CNN last night, and on CNN (not known to lie in favor of Trump), their business guy said the market went up yesterday because of favorable reaction to what they discussed.  So the markets, who know more about this than either one of us, responded favorably.  I can accept that for what it is.  You cannot, and must find another explanation. 
			
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 the EU concessions that you dismissed as nothing?
But thats not what you said.. you said they made concessions to Trump  please don't move the goal posts ..  the market is happy  because  the agreed to keep talking  and it didnt get worse ....  not because of any details...  or things got better ... this is the part you avoid like the plague ...   nothing has fundamentally has changed..  if it has were are the agreements with numbers and amounts and time lines for  implementation  if i had that info I could have a different view but I do not ...
Trump took an old dull penny and gave you a shiny penny .....  and some how you think its not the same penny  ....   thats the genius  of Trump ....