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Old 12-08-2018, 11:02 AM   #21
Jim in CT
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The gains I made in 2017 are gone due to what has happened in the market in 2018 and I don't monkey with what Fidelity is doing with my accounts; I don't have that kind of market knowledge to trust myself with trading. Going back to a balance I had when he took office is all the proof I need to give him a failing mark thus far, you can judge him however you like.

Two years in and he has had one legislation passed and that tax cut profited the rich for the most part; yeah short terms for some but stay tuned.

Not sure the environment is going to keep winning with some of the moves he's made that impact it, so I'm giving him a failing mark there as well.

I'd agree China needed to be addressed, but I'm not sure the all out trade war is the best approach, I'm holding out on my judgement on that one.

I have to give him a good mark for getting NK to the table, but it doesn't appear to have gone anywhere from there.

Jobs, sure he's helped, but again when you have a economy (large ocean going box ship) going in one direction, it goes that way for a long, long time. Economy changes aren't done on a dime, they evolve over years.

Immigration, well that's his campaigning platform and he is still looking for his wall. Not arguing that our borders needed to be tighter, but the way he goes about it is wrong, or you wouldn't keep getting judges ruling against him. He fails IMHO, as this needed to be a partisan approach from the beginning, otherwise nothing substantial will come of it.

Hard to put forth good legislation and changes that are positive for everyone, when you can barely keep the "good" people today long enough; he gets an F for civility and good judgement on hires and fires. Look at the comments made recently about Rex, dumb as a rock and lazy, he turned from smart and sharp to dumb as a rock in a year really. An F isn't a low enough grade to give him on civility and respect for his peers.

Have you been reading or getting the filings released and not just the spin Fox News is putting on them? I don't think it's looking too good for the Trump family when all is reveled. I love it that Fox and Trump are echo's of one another, claiming it proves no collusion is so laughable. Even some that wasn't redacted seems to indicate a coordinated effort by all in the campaign staff to get their stories straight on dealings with the Russians and now the Trump family business ventures in Russia are part of the equation. I'd bet my life on him not running in 2020 and I'm not sure he will even reach that far before the other shoe drops.


The market is up meaningfully since January 2017. I’m not a financial advisor, but if you’re ok with lagging the market by double digits, that’s your issue, not Trumps fault. The indices are up since he took office. Gdp is up meaningfully, and unemployment is down meaningfully. trump clearly inherited favorable tailwinds from obama. He is also clearly making his own positive impact. i don’t know what you’re invested in, but the broad statistics are all better now than when he took office. Do you dispute that?

i think you’re being extremely fair in China, it may end well, but americans are hurting now because if it. maybe a more finessed approach would
have been wise. We’ll see. but you were fair.

on jobs, i agree it doesn’t change on a dime. but most people admit he has been a positive influence. most say we’re overdue for a recession, maybe he deserves some credit for extending the good run.

on immigration, i’m no lawyer but we need major changes, and it means nothing to me if the 9th circuit blocks him, those idiots are constantly overturned, they don’t care about the law, they care about liberal advocacy. But he’s not winning on immigration, i agree.

I also give him a F on civility, not in hires. i love Mattis, and i love love love the supreme court picks.

on the special investigator, filings, etc, all i saw was that alan dershowitz, a lefty if there ever was one, said he saw no crimes in what trump did. if trump is guilty, i want him impeached as much as Spence and Pete.

to me, the economy and the supreme court picks and killing terrorists, are what matter. putting kavanaugh in the SCOTUS, and all the appointments he’ll make in the next two years, it doesn’t even matter as much to me
if liberals sweep in 2020 ( and they might), they can’t go nearkybas far with these judges. he’s put in limits for far we can go in ignoring the constitution. to me, that’s his legacy, and it’s awesome.

it would
be nice if he had better bedside manner. but i care more about results.
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