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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Yes Jim things would change, they always do.
Change is great, just look at your phone.
Question: Won’t a carbon fee be bad for the economy?
Answer: A properly designed carbon policy will be good for the economy. The Energy Innovation and Carbon Dividend Act will have a positive impact on our well-being, especially if we consider the avoided costs of climate change and the health benefits from reduced air pollution.
An impressive 98 percent of economists agree that a price on carbon will promote efficiency and innovation. [1] A 2013 review by Resources for The Future [2] held that the impact of various carbon tax plans on GDP would be ‘trivially small,’ and a 2014 analysis of the carbon fee and dividend by REMI [3] predicted that over 20 years, it would actually increase U.S. GDP by $1.4 trillion.
Neither of those studies accounted for how much money we will save by avoiding fossil fuel damages. [4] According to a 2016 government report, every metric ton of carbon dioxide (CO2) emitted now will cost tomorrow’s economy from $12 to $120, and that cost could double by 2050. [5] We currently emit over 160 metric tons of CO2 per second. [6] In 2017, a string of climate-related disasters cost our economy over $300 billion,
Include the health costs of fossil fuel air pollution, which have been estimated at $188 billion annually, [7] and it’s clear that burning fossil fuels is already costing our economy upwards of $250 billion a year. This was confirmed by the Fourth National Climate Assessment [8] issued by our government in November 2018.
When someone claims a carbon tax will depress the economy, they fail to consider how returning the money back to U.S. households changes the results, and also fail to account for the huge costs of doing nothing.
Why do you think change is bad for you or the economy
https://www.climaterealityproject.or...newable-energy
I'm sorry that you feel victimized by all of the moviestars, all dem Democrats and Al Gore but many more people than that have concerns about the environment. Look at polling and tell me that the environment is not viewed as important by a majority of voters. Lead or get left behind. Currently the US is getting left behind and the administration is bragging about it.
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/...e-environment/
Leading by example on Immigration would be a good start for the current President
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/...d-workers.html |
"Change is great, just look at your phone"
That change, maybe, is good. Some change, like announcing that I can follow a 9 year-old girl into a public restroom if I feel like it, not so much. "Change" isn't always an improvement.
"A properly designed carbon policy will be good for the economy."
well, by jiminy, that's good enough for me!
Green energy, at this time, is stupidly inefficient and expensive. Oil is cheaper than green. Far, far cheaper. Not even close., When green is cheaper, companies will have no reason to use oil.
"An impressive 98 percent of economists agree that a price on carbon will promote efficiency and innovation"
Obviously a carbon tax will incentivize businesses to use less carbon. It will also result in price increases, layoffs, and cuts to employee compensation.
"When someone claims a carbon tax will depress the economy, they fail to consider how returning the money back to U.S. households "
Oh, geez, how could I be so stupid! Because every time the feds impose massive regulations, I always get huge checks in the mail from Uncle Sam! How could I forget?
"In 2017, a string of climate-related disasters cost our economy over $300 billion"
And no way of knowing what the cost would have been, if we all used zero carbon. Impossible to tell, too many variables.
"I'm sorry that you feel victimized by all of the moviestars, all dem Democrats and Al Gore "
I don't feel victimized by them, they aren't taking anything from me - yet. Once again, you ignore what I actually said, and pretend I said something I never said. I am not victimized by them, and I prefer to continue to avoid being victimized by them. If you want to buy Al Gores book, so he can put an addition on his house which requires another central A/C compressor, knock yourself out. I think it's funny. If the leaders of the movement don't believe in it, why should I?
"Look at polling and tell me that the environment is not viewed as important by a majority of voters"
Count me among them. But I'm not ready to demand massive, burdensome changes, based on assumptions made by people, some of whom will (or already have) profit form the shift.
"Lead or get left behind"
What does that mean? Don't we all live on the same planet? So if we outlaw gas-powered cars, but India and China produce more gas-powered cars, is the planet better off? I don't see how...it's all too connected.