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					Originally Posted by  scottw
					 
				 
				"gropin' joe" ?  I don't like his chances 
			
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 I don't think Biden would stand a chance in the primary (unless it's him against 10 indistinguishable communists who all split the radical leftie vote), but I bet he'd win 40 states in the general.  The democratic party at the national level, is a million light years to the left of where it was in 2008.  They don't want Biden, and they hate the CEO of Starbucks, who is a liberal democrat, but closer to being a Republican than he is to the rest of the democratic field.  It's an absolute freak show.