[MakoMike]

Originally Posted by wdmso

this rec vs comm guys

full disclosure I have applied for my Comm Bass permit


i dont know many rec guys catching 15 fish a day and keeping their 1 and releasing the rest and not everyone who owns a saltwater license fish for Bass ... not saying every comm guy gets 15 but to get their size limit there going thru some fish..

But for comm guys to suggest it's everyone else impacting and rec guys to say the same thing about the comm guys... is not based on reality ... and id love to see how scientific that chart and where the data comes from.. i did some research the graph is based on the whole east coast .. here is some information from the site ... some issues for me uncalibrated MRIP catch estimates and this
commercial landings in 2017 include Massachusetts (17%) recreational landings by Massachusetts (16%) not sure how mortality rates are not the same or very close? in Mass at least ,, and this applies here I am sure.. Anglers continue to release the vast majority of striped bass they catch; 73% to 91% not a math wiz but how many would need to be caught to get 16% landing if 73-91% are released ??

The following recreational estimates is based on uncalibrated MRIP catch estimates: From 2007 to 2014, total recreational landings along the coast have averaged just over 25 million pounds annually. From 2015-2017, recreational anglers harvested an estimated 16 million fish annually, which can be attributed to implementation of more restrictive regulations via Addendum IV. Of those coastwide recreational landings, Maryland landed the largest percent in 2017 in terms of number of fish (52%), followed by Massachusetts (16%), New York (10%), New Jersey (8%), and Virginia (5%). Anglers continue to release the vast majority of striped bass they catch; 73% to 91% since implementation of Amendment 6 in 2003. The number of released fish peaked in 2006 at 23.3 million fish. Total numbers of releases have declined since then, averaging 8.6 million fish annually from 2008-2017. An estimated 12.0 million fish were caught and released in 2017.

Under Amendment 5, commercial striped bass harvest grew from 3.4 million pounds in 1995 to 6 million pounds in 2002. Since the passage of Amendment 6, commercial harvest has been managed through a quota system, with landings averaging just shy of 7 million pounds annually from 2003 to 2014. In 2015, the commercial quota was reduced through Addendum IV. Chesapeake Bay jurisdictions accounted for approximately 62% (2.9 million pounds) of the total commercial landings in 2017 (4.8 million pounds). Other primary contributors to coastwide commercial landings in 2017 include Massachusetts (17%) and New York (15%). In 2017, commercial harvest in the Albemarle Sound/Roanoke River (A/R) management area was estimated at 75,783 pounds and recreational harvest estimated at 101,131 pounds.





I still feel a slot limit is the best bet keep the breeder out of the food chain

Just FYI the terms "calibrated" and "uncalibrated" refer to a change in the methodology used to estimate the recreational catch. Originally the effort survey (see my note above) was made vis phone call. When they switched to the mail survey they got a much better response rate that was so different it called into question all of the estimates made in prior years. So they want back and reestimated (calibrated) the prior years to make them comparable to the estimates using the new methodology.