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Old 08-28-2019, 10:05 AM   #86
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Originally Posted by detbuch View Post
Does it explain the unkind things Trump has ever done or said to Russia?

e.g.:

Trump criticized Russia for the nerve gas poisoning of the former Russian intelligence agent. He expelled 60 Russian diplomats and closed the consulate in Seattle.
The diplomats he expelled have been replaced by others, it was not a force reduction, so it sounds good but little effect. Typical Trump

Trumps military killed 300 Russian troops in Syria. Obama wouldn’t cross his red line in the sand in Syria for fear of antagonizing Russia.
Quite Trumpy of you to add 50% to the number of Mercenaries killed by US in Syria, and since when are people not expendable to Putin?

Trump provided lethal weapons to Ukraine. When Ukraine asked Obama for weapons after Russia invaded, he sent food.

He sent nonlethal support, Ukraine is not a NATO member and was invaded because they were going to sign a association agreement with the EU and Russia was concerned that after that they would face more than sanctions if they annexed Crimea. Trump is willing to think of that as water over the dam. Our allies are not.

Trump placed some sanctions on Russia for the election interference.
Some is the operative word, the sanctions Trump imposed have been largely ineffective, Russian GDP as not been decreased, Energy earnings have increased and the people in positions of power are not suffering. Things that are much more effective could be done, but the WH and Moscow Mitch stand in the way.

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Originally Posted by detbuch View Post
Wasn't trying to bring in the notion of "fault." Since you did, was it Obama's "fault" that he was nicer to the Russians in those cases than Trump was?

I was asking if the alleged oligarchs thing was also the reason for Trump doing unkind things to the Russians. As usual, you deflect.
Trump does the "unkind things" he is told to do by Putin.
Follow the money, and you will find who is Trump's true controller.
Trump's taxes, the Deutsche Banks documents and other business records will tell the tale.
Was Trump's calling of others treasonous, projection?

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