Originally Posted by Got Stripers
You guys are so predictable,
So are you guys. Is that bad?
just like Trump mirroring the Fox narrative of the day, it’s repeat, repeat, repeat.
But it's OK for you guys to repeat, repeat, repeat? Is that bad?
I’d bet my savings the house will impeach,
The whole impeachment thing does resemble a crapshoot. Put your money on where the numbers fall.
that the spineless senators will not hold him accountable, although a few in tight re-election districts might
Wow . . . it's spineless to hold on to your convictions in the face of a constant media barrage . . .
and we will have to live thru one the most nasty campaigns anyone has or will likely ever see again.
And, of course, only one side will be nasty. Right.
Very disturbing our president and the GOP are ok with extorting
It's amazing that anyone would think that extortion in our political world is disturbing. It goes on all the time. ALL the time. Heck, pols even have to extort the public for votes, in one of the many ways, by promising the voters stuff we can't even afford, and which they shouldn't even if we could.
Oh well . . . I guess it's just a matter of how we extort, er, distort, language. In one instance call something extortion, in another calling it just politics . . . oh wait . . . they are kind of the same thing.
I suppose we could call all foreign agreements extortion in the end. So I would think that "extorting" a foreign power to help clear up corruption would be a good thing.
a foreign power to gain an advantage over a political rival
I don't think Trump thinks he needs help beating Biden, nor any other of the Dem candidates. I think he is justifiably pissed off at the corrupt attempt to bring him down from the very beginning of his presidency, even before he had a chance to make any policy or "extort" a foreign power. I think he justifiably believes that what was attempted to do to him strongly indicates that there is a corrupt, politically driven agenda in the chasms of our political system and those running it. And whether out of vengeance, or presidential duty, or both, he feels that embedded corruption must be exposed and eradicated. And a lot of us feel the same way. That's why there are the Horowitz, and Durham, and DOJ investigations going on now. And what you call "extortion" is a request to get help in those investigations from foreign powers who may have direct evidence of that corruption. And he has the legitimate power to do so, whatever negative label you wish to attach to it.
and that he would further reach out to our biggest global threat in China to do the same.
This is laughable. He is doing to China what no other President has come close to doing. China has become our biggest global threat because our past administrations stood aside and let it happen, before our eyes. It raped us and is expanding that rape globally. And we let it happen.
So now we're concerned about its threat?!! And Trump is the only one actually trying to do something about it at this 11th hour?
Trump is legally asking for assistance in corruption investigations in which China has related information. It is obligated by agreement to provide that help.
Of course, China does not live up to agreements or obligations. So it may well not cooperate and just wait it out hoping Trump will not get re-elected so the tariff stuff will go away and it can get back to its unimpeded march to global dominance.
Or maybe China thinks it's being "extorted," So it may cooperate in hopes that it will help to abate the trade war.
If you don’t think Trump getting into a situation where he owes Ukraine, China or Russia a favor puts our national security at risk your a fool. No need to respond, I get it, I know the narrative, the whataboutism campaign by Trump is the new rallying cry echoed in here.
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