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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
They were there to defeat Isis and 10,000 of those nuts are housed in make shift prisons, guarded by Kurds. Can you imagine being a soldier or commander stationed there, when the Kurds out of necessity abandon their guard duties to head to the front, allowing sleeper cells to break out their comrades. Trump is a simpleton and doesn't seek advice from anyone, this decision blindsided everyone and now if forced to walk it back; it's not going to help him politically. A phone call from Turkey, someone gives him the praise he so desperately needs and out we go, with the Russians poised to move from the other side.
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"They were there to defeat Isis"
Which I believe they did. Months ago.
"10,000 of those nuts are housed in make shift prisons"
Lots of ways to deal with that.
"Can you imagine being a soldier or commander stationed there, when the Kurds out of necessity abandon their guard duties to head to the front, allowing sleeper cells to break out their comrades. Trump is a simpleton and doesn't seek advice from anyone"
It's not that simple. I'm trying to find the video, there was a Marine captain on TV last night, sayng any soldier would feel good about fighting ISIS in Syria, none of them would feel good sitting there waiting to get sucked into a regional conflict in which the US has no vital interests.
It's not necessarily that Trump isn't listehbing to anybody (though that's possible). It's that he's listening to people like Rand Paul and this Marine Captain, and all you hear on MSNBC and CNN is that the move is stupid. You don't hear from any thoughtful, caring people who are on Trumps side. Not on those stations. Only that Trump is evil.
"Debate" involves listening to thoughtful people on both sides, not just one side.
When Bush decided to double down in Iraq with the surge, he was called a neocon war monger.
When Obama pulled out of Iraq (possibly allowing the bad guys to eliminate gains we made), CNN and MSNBC said bringoing troops home was the right hting to do.
When Trump decides to being troops home, he's an idiot.
Soo it seems to me, the only consistency in terms of response and messaging, is that the Republican is always wrong, he democrat is always right.
Yeah, yeah, whataboutism. Yeah, yeah, Iraq and Syria aren't exactly the same.
I'm not saying I support Trumps decision or that I hate it. I don't know. I do like General Mattis and would tend to believe he's right more often than he's wrong, and he wanted to stay. But Bolton also wanted to stay, and he could care less how many Americans get killed there. I don't know.
WHat I am pretty sure of, is that much of this is political. If Hilary made the same decision, she'd be hailed as a genius.