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Old 12-04-2019, 02:47 PM   #10
Pete F.
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Floridaman is surprised when, after three years of insulting our allies, they do not put up with his baloney.

Start with the recent reduction in our NATO expenditure. Before that, he announced new tariffs on Argentine and Brazilian imports, along with a renewed threat of tariffs against French imports. On top of tariffs on Canadian, Mexican, and European imports. On top of demanding that South Korea to pay more for America’s military presence on the peninsula. On top of calling our southern neighbors rapists and murderers. On top of picking fights with the leaders of friendly nations, such as Germany, France, and Canada. On top of saying that he is “in love” with enemies, such as Kim Jong-Un. On top of insulting friends, as he did when he cancelled a state visit to Denmark because the country would not entertain the idea of selling Greenland to him. On top of pulling out of everything but porn stars.

That is where American foreign policy is at.

When we were THE SUPERPOWER we were the judge, the jury and the executioner. Pretty hard to beat that.
Have we not had the biggest and best economy in the world, do you have any clue why?

We have no angry neighbors, think about the rest of the world. With the exception of Australia and the Americas there are active conflicts everywheres.

We don't worry about an armed invasion at our borders, instead we have to fear poor people coming here for opportunity.

This is because we have worked towards this for generations and won, time after time, not by being an overt bully but by being a friend, ally and if needed speaking softly while holding a big stick.

China has been begging the Argentines, Brazilians, and other states in our hemisphere to let them to invest in their countries.

South Korea just signed a security agreement with China.

Russia recently hosted many African nations, has forces involved in conflicts there and forgave their debt, do you think they did that just to be nice?

France is saying perhaps they should along with the rest of Europe, just militarize and go it alone.
Until 70+ years ago there was war after war in Europe, is it to our advantage to let them militarize again?
Some fools think that would be to our advantage, history does not.
Do you think that the last world war would not result, we would just sit back and watch, then deal with the victor?

What we do to secure the world is far cheaper than war and less than having every country maintaining an army while we have to maintain one that can defend us from any combination thereof.

If you think the cost of what we do is a lot, what is the cost of war or maintaining that any eventuality army?

If we alienate our allies and then remove our forward bases, we do not have the transportation to react to problems worldwide and will be far weaker.

The weak lose, every time, sooner or later.

If you don't think so look at the British Empire, it once controlled the world. Now it is trying to not be a state in the EU.

Floridaman has no clue what the results of what he is doing will be, it's not a real estate deal that if it doesn't work out he can move on to the next one. You can't just bankrupt the country, screw the creditors and move on to the next turkey. Diplomacy is not transactional, if it was any any snake oil salesman could do it.

The sooner he's gone the better.

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