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Old 02-07-2020, 03:47 PM   #28
detbuch
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Originally Posted by PaulS View Post
You didn't say anything about historians - people defending Trump claim that he was talking about people protesting the removal of the monument.

Trump kept trying to equate the 2 groups. The rally was promoted by white nationalist and the list of speakers was filled w/white nationalists. There was no good people there from the right. They were all neo Nazis or white nationalists.


TRUMP: I am not putting anybody on a moral plane, what I’m saying is this: you had a group on one side and a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs and it was vicious and horrible and it was a horrible thing to watch, but there is another side. There was a group on this side, you can call them the left. You’ve just called them the left, that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is.

REPORTER: You said there was hatred and violence on both sides?

TRUMP: I do think there is blame – yes, I think there is blame on both sides. You look at, you look at both sides. I think there’s blame on both sides, and I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And, and, and, and if you reported it accurately, you would say.

REPORTER: The neo-Nazis started this thing. They showed up in Charlottesville.

TRUMP: Excuse me, they didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.
You take a slice of the Press conference and neglect the rest. Including the part where he said he was not talking about the Neo Nazis and White Nationalists.

In the confused and combative back and forth between Trump and the reporters various nouns and pronouns got mixed.

There were two different opposing groups. One was the Antifa/Neo Nazi opposing groups. The other had neither of those two but was comprised of people who were pro or con on the taking down of the statue. There was also the entire group of people that included all of the above.

Trump talked about both of the two divisions--the Nazi/Antifa and the peaceful pro/con protesters. The first part of your slice was talking back and forth about the opposing Nazi/Antifa group. The last paragraph, starting with "you also had people" was about the peaceful pro/con statue group.

You disregard that in the same Press conference, to clear up any misconception about what and who he was talking about, Trump said that he was not talking about the Neo Nazis (when he referred to fine people on both sides) and that they should be condemned.

You didn't answer my question. To whom do you think he was referring when he said both sides (good or fine people on both sides)? Was he referring to Antifa as well as the Neo Nazis. Are you claiming that he believed there were fine Antifa people? And why would he think that Neo Nazis were fine people when his daughter and grandchildren are Jews? Did you watch the short video I posted?

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