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Old 04-22-2020, 04:07 PM   #16
detbuch
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Originally Posted by Pete F. View Post
Trump*failed to lead the CDC's effort by any measure. Leading the Executive branch responsible for managing the day to day operations of the Federal Government is his job. He volunteered for it, campaigned for it, accepted it and took the oath.

He didn't fail to lead the CDC. It failed to produce what it was tasked to do. Even if it would have used the testing that was already available which was used by other countries instead of trying to produce a better one, testing could have started earlier. And it even flubbed what it was trying to do which created the delay that Trump is blamed for. AND IF CHINA WOULD HAVE BEEN TRUTHFUL IMMEDIATELY, and stopped travel out of China when it stopped travel internally, the whole world would have been able to respond correctly and much of the spread would have been prevented.

The notion that Trump, or any President, should have known that the CDC was on the wrong path is ridiculous. The President can only react to the failure, not prevent it. The administration, including experts like Fauci and Berx, did what was necessary to fix the problem. Of course, the talking point is Trump acted too late.


He has lead his blaming brigade every minute he has been on the air for weeks, in blaming and shuffling off responsibility anywhere possible.

Yeah, not is only that an exaggeration, but there has been a blaming brigade of politicians and media and including folks like you that has and is constantly blaming Trump instead of the real culprit. Once China loosed many thousands of Chinese that had been exposed to the virus to travel to the rest of the world, including many to the US, it was too late for an unprepared world "community" which didn't know they were being infected until all they could do is react. And yes, it's true that the "plan" that Biden and Obama and Bush made was not followed even by them after their bouts with epidemics were over. They did not restock depleted equipment and supplies nor maintain a readiness protocol as prescribed by their "plan." Nor did the states and cities and administrative agencies as the "plan" required. Trump had to fix that and it has been "reported" that he has done what a lot did not think was possible in such a short time.

And, because of China's and the WHO duplicity, the downplaying "messaging" was being mouthed by the Dems, the WHO, the media, experts like Fauci, not just Trump, during that supposedly critical early stage time.

And, of course, politics had to be played. The crisis provided the opportunity, which must not be wasted, to politicize. That seems to be more important than fighting the disease.


I have noticed that Fox News and the president no longer love the hydroxychloroquine. Perhaps the president and his propaganda arm should stop handing out medical advice?

I don't know about that. Not on my radar. Far as I know, the use of that medicine was being done before Trump said anything. And is reported to being used effectively now. The doctors who prescribe it, I'm sure, aren't doing so because of anything Trump said. Your model, South Korea, uses it as part of their protocol. There has as yet not been a completed, peer reviewed study on its effectiveness. And those, such as the VA limited one, did not, it "is being reported" use the total combination of meds that is recommended. But I certainly don't blame Trump for recommending it, nor credit him for any successful use of it. It's a medical protocol used by medical people, and shouldn't be a political weapon one way or the other.

The longer we pretend that Trump* isn’t mentally ill, the more devastation we’re going to experience.
Yeah, that's it . . . he's mentally ill. Geez.
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