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Old 04-22-2020, 05:42 PM   #28
Pete F.
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Originally Posted by detbuch View Post
What specific and DEFINITIVE briefings did the President get? We will find out sooner or later, though Trump* has done more than any other President in history to hide his actions Vague reports such as China may not be telling the truth, for instance are not definitively actionable. So are you claiming that our intelligencce agencies did not include the information in the PDR? Reports that the virus might be passed human to human would not be conclusive enough to immediately shut down the country. He was told, he ignored the information Nor would they solve the problem of our FDA and CDC not being prepared as they were supposed to be for a pandemic. He is in charge of the Federal government. Nor the problem of the States and cities as well being understocked and unprepared. There was supposed to be a "plan" in place to immediately respond to a pandemic. No one was following the plan. The plan has protocols for leaders to follow, claiming it was only one person, it is only a few, it will disappear one day like a miracle is not a part of the protocol nor anything that any rational leader would do in the fface of a threat. (And yeah, that would include DeBlasio who was not following the "plan" as required, and Pelosi the Speaker of the House which is responsible for oversight of regulatory agencies. And yeah, both are consummate political liars. And yeah, neither is the sharpest tack in the drawer.) I could give a #^&#^&#^&#^& about a Mayor, but let's look at what Trump* has done to restrict Congressional oversight under his administration. He has refused to comply with any Congressional requests, do you think that it occurs like a miracle one day the information just appears?

It certainly did not help to have the WHO claim their was no indication that the virus was transferrable human to human, therefor not easily contagious.
10 January 2020

WHO issued a comprehensive package of technical guidance online with advice to all countries on how to detect, test and manage potential cases, based on what was known about the virus at the time. This guidance was shared with WHO's regional emergency directors to share with WHO representatives in countries.
Based on experience with SARS and MERS and known modes of transmission of respiratory viruses, infection and prevention control guidance were published to protect health workers recommending droplet and contact precautions when caring for patients, and airborne precautions for aerosol generating procedures conducted by health workers.
14 January 2020
WHO's technical lead for the response noted in a press briefing there may have been limited human-to-human transmission of the coronavirus (in the 41 confirmed cases), mainly through family members, and that there was a risk of a possible wider outbreak. The lead also said that human-to-human transmission would not be surprising given our experience with SARS, MERS and other respiratory pathogens.


And recommending not to take drastic measures because that would instill unnecessary fear and panic. Cite a source for this, I find numerous instances of the Trump administration failing to take action because of fear of upsetting the markets exist. Nor was it helpful that this attitude was accepted by our politicians, medical community, and media. Trump, in that atmosphere, would have been blistered as an authoritarian demagogue if he would have shut the country down at that time. Now you are acknowledging that he is so weak that his actions are decided not by what is best for the country, but what is best for him politically. Nor would it have been likely that he could have convinced the Congress to spend trillions to fight what was not believed to be that serious. Late January, 2020: HHS sends a letter asking to use its transfer authority to shift $136 million of department funds into pools that could be tapped for combating the coronavirus. White House budget hawks argued that appropriating too much money at once when there were only a few U.S. cases would be viewed as alarmist.

Plus, at the time of any intelligence briefings, the virus would have already arrived and infected enough thousands that the spread would be rapid and already huge.

With what was actually known, and what was nearly universally believed, there was nothing realistically that could be done in time to stop what happened. You forgot the ten weeks of failing to lead

And there is one, true, demonic, culprit. The CCP. That should be enough for the rest of the world to begin weening off of China's cheap technological labor, and economic "help" enough to help bring about its demise. You and Pete F may think the world will be saved by getting rid of Trump. I think Trump is the wrong boogey man. Rather, the world will be rescued from a severe political and economic virus when the CCP is abolished.
Well your Stable Genius is certainly not capable of weaning anything, he doesn't have enough self control to deal with an umbrella, never mind a foreign government.

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump · Mar 27
Just finished a very good conversation with President Xi of China. Discussed in great detail the CoronaVirus that is ravaging large parts of our Planet. China has been through much & has developed a strong understanding of the Virus. We are working closely together. Much respect!

Trump is a poster child for being played by China.

At the time of this tweet, China was engaged in multi-platform attacks on the American people to bolster their own image and credibility (this tweet helps them with that) and to undermine ours.

China has a lot to thank Trump for.

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