[Pete F.]

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Originally Posted by Pete F. View Post
There is a daily Trump* Rally at the WH.
Everyone is required to praise Dear Leader, you would think you are in one of the countries with a leader he admires, like Putin, Kim, Erdogan, Xi, Orban, etc.

Nonsensical narrative. Actually the nonsense occurs daily at the WH "briefing"

As I have said before Trump* praises himself more than he deserves, I feel no need to add to his self aggrandizement.

He tries to balance what he considers the bigoted political characterization of him spewed out daily by the left.

He and his ship of fools are well on the way to sinking this country.

This country was rising not sinking until the virus hit. Of course, like the Russia hoax, phony impeachment, and constant barrage of fake news, the virus presented yet another chance to bring Trump down. Never let a crisis go to waste. So far, the "ship of fools" has gotten it right re the hoax and impeachment, and you got it wrong. You have been the fool.
Trump* used every tool possible to give life support to the oldest bull market in history. The trigger for it's collapse was a virus but the collapse was inevitable. Meanwhile he increased the deficit, just like all his recent Republican predecessors. The only deficit hawks in this country seem to be Democrats.

This is the first global crisis in more than a century where no one is even looking to the United States for leadership. And it's not just the fact that Trump* is President, it's the fact that we elected him President in the first place.

I don't know who "no one" is looking to for leadership. I don't even know who "no one" is. I also don't know why the United States should be the leader of "no one" or everyone, or of the world, in this crisis. I don't think we should be concerned with jingoistic notions of being "the leader." And making Trump be the symbol who represents the leading country and we the puppets who voted for him is a Maoistic cult of personality.

The whole notion is essentially authoritarian--which I thought you oppose.
The USA has been the world leader with a plan since the second world war. It has never been about who our leader was, it was that we were consistently one administration after another, willing and able to lead, point out injustice, work against autocratic regimes and promote democracy. Apparently none of that makes any sense in your view of our place in the world.

All that stuff you claim is not mentioned is covered, just how did you find out about it? Somebody whisper in your ear? Or do you think the news lead should be: "The Great and Magnificent President of the United States, smartest man in the world has once again demonstrated his brilliance, blah, blah, blah"

You don't have to counter with extremism, exaggerated characterization. Stay calm.

Nothing extreme about that, though what you claim is the typical Trumplican argument: if you object you are an extremist!

The press in this country has never functioned as the propaganda arm of the government until Fox.

More extremism, exaggeration, mischaracterization. And, anyway, The Press has always had a bias.

There has never been a symbiotic relationship between the press and the administration like Fox and Trump.

And then in closing you spout your fallback incantation, But Obama, it seems to be reassuring like a rosary for you.

You still seem unable to comprehend the difference in that under Presidents Bush and Obama they made a conscious decision to have separation occur when parents or guardians where charged with a serious crime.
Under this clown they made sure to separate all of them as part of their government sponsored kidnapping policy, with the hope that it would act as a deterrent.
Of the Eighteen Thousand children separated by this administration Three Thousand still have not been reunited and the official who successfully ran the office to reunite them has now been reassigned by the White House Loyalty Assurance office to another position. How dare the media report that.
The old cause and effect. If Bush and Obama had shut off the excessive illegal immigration, if the leftist and the corporatists had not encouraged it for either votes or cheap labor, this would not have happened. If the illegals had not, with encouragement and help from various politicized groups, came in processions of caravans of thousands, this would not have happened. And if this happening creates a reverse crisis that makes it all go in the opposite direction, that will be a corrective.

Certainly Trump made some agreements and provisions to stem the tide. If the illegal problem gets solved, there won't be the separations. If measures that result in separations along with the rest of what Trump is doing stop the excessive flow, it will be a good thing. Politicizing the separation is counterproductive. It is meant to be so.

There has been a long train of phony measures to stop the huge numbers of illegal immigration. The longer that goes on, the more draconian the measures to stop it may become.

Prior to 911 the border was much more porous. Mexicans and Central Americans came and went with the seasons. We gained their low cost labor, they gained our dollars and went home every year to see their families and had better lives. Pretty much a mutually beneficial relationship. Unless you did not like cheap produce.
For the most part they came to parts of the USA that used to be Mexican.
In the recent past we have #^&#^&#^&#^&ed around in Central American Governments and pretty much screwed them up.
Then we walked away and only paid attention if they looked like they might be more socialist than we thought they ought to, quick send the CIA.
Now we have a problem on our southern border that will not go away without some hard diplomatic and development work.
This administration doesn't seem to have any interest until China or Russia pops up in that area and all of the sudden we remember the Monroe Doctrine.
A lot of work needs to happen there on a multitude of fronts to reduce problems there and here, spanning issues from poverty to addiction.
I doubt this clueless crowd of dilettantes is capable of putting together a coherent policy for anything, never mind the issues in Central America