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Old 09-12-2020, 10:44 AM   #11
detbuch
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Originally Posted by wdmso View Post
So you weren't suggesting building stuff equals leadership..? With your 30years of bulilding stuff in NY .. Comment?

Stuff doesn't just spontaneously get built.

Is blaming the WHO for your pandemic response or china or blue state. Is that leadership?

The task force to fight the pandemic didn't just spontaneously get together.

Or how about Trump claiming he was trying not to panic Americans

Preventing or tamping down panic is leadership.

He seems not to have a problem trying to create fear and panic in Americans over the protest and protesters or bidens future plans to dismantle white suburbia .. how about that leadership..

Violent "protesters" create the fear. Doing what is necessary to get rid of the violence is leadership. Pointing out bidens stated future plans is good leadership and proper "politics." You don't think Biden and the Dems and you and Pete aren't trying to "create fear" of Trump? Leadership in the down and dirty of politics is not pretty nor laudable. Leadership in killing your opponents in war is commendable. Sometimes good leadership results in horrible things.

The Dems are doing a really good job of smearing Trump. That is not just happening. Some or someone is leading the charge.


Or even better why dont you tell us what leadership Traits you see in Trump

Watching his rallies can help. Getting people together to do a job seems to be one of his most evident leadership traits. Like the current Middle east peace treaty, among others as President and business man. You may not like his style or personality. You may not like the results or goals of his leadership. You may actually hate him. But if that blinds you from seeing that he has led people, and successfully so (with some failures as well), in his business and in his time as President, then we probably have a different definition of leadership. There are different styles and methods of leadership. Whatever your definition is, doesn't eliminate the others.

I doubt even you see lying as easily as breathing, rude obnoxious failure to accept responsibility. As qualities of a good leader. So whats left to make Trump a leader in your eyes? And any other of Trumps Faithful here.
This business of his lying is overdone, exaggerated, often even a lie itself. His opponent has been lying his way through politics for decades. But that's just Uncle Joe, just the scrapper from Scranton, just a typical politician. It is apparent to me that effective lies by their guy or gal are truly appreciated by most of those who support a politician. I don't know what "good" leadership qualities Uncle Joe has. But I'm not going to say he has none. I am assuming, as I do with Trump, that to get as far as he has, it would have taken some ability to lead. Unless he is a total tool, wholly supported by other "leaders" who use him to further their goals.

This whole Trump's lack of leadership nonsense is, on its face, a lie. And a very obvious one. And the "leaders" who create such mantras are doing a really good job of persuading people, like you, that it is so.
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