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Old 09-21-2020, 07:34 AM   #6
Jim in CT
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Originally Posted by Pete F. View Post
Not only does it show that the Turtle thinks they'll lose, but that conservatives have lost faith in their own ideas - which is why they're obsessed with the courts. They've given up on the power of ideas and will settle for the power of courts.
I’m old enough to remember when “legislating through the courts” was supposedly a liberal vice, and Bad. Now it’s a conservative virtue.
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"Not only does it show that the Turtle thinks they'll lose"

Big whoop. Even if Trump was ahead in the polls, and even if the polls showed the GOP would keep the senate, you still don't pass up this chance. He has a chance to drastically re-shape (fix in my opinion) the court. You don't take chances with that. It would be insane to risk losing the opportunity.

"conservatives have lost faith in their own ideas - which is why they're obsessed with the courts"

That is idiotic. The democrats aren't obsessed with the court? You didn't see what they did to Clarence Thomas, Bork, or Kavanaugh?

Republicans have had a huge, huge majority in DC and across the states, since 2010. They've crushed democrats in the last decade, absolutely crushed them. But the pendulum swings both ways, that's the nature of things. It doesn't mean the end of the GOP, any more than 2016 marked the end of the Democrats. It's just pendulum swinging.

"I’m old enough to remember when “legislating through the courts” was supposedly a liberal vice, and Bad. Now it’s a conservative virtue.'

But the GOP won't legislate through a conservative court. Obviously you don't know what a conservative court means. By definition, we want judges who aren't activists. If Trump gets his nominee in, it won't be a switch from leftwing judicial activism to rightwing judicial activism. It will be a halt to judicial activism.

A conservative court won't make abortion illegal. It will (as the constitution clearly enumerates that it should) refer the question to the states. The states can do whatever they want.

Do you understand the difference? While I'm opposed to abortion, conservatives don't want a SCOTUS to outlaw abortion, that would be judicial overreach. We want a SCOTUS to say "this isn't a federal issue, it's a state issue". We do not want, nor will we ask for, right-wing activism from the bench. We want a neutral bench. We want to make decisions based on the constitution, regardless of party, regardless of who is asking for what.

You just don't get it. Or you get it, and you're lying.
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