QUOTE=Pete F.;1202059]The definition of Stand-by is: readiness for duty or immediate deployment, a person or thing ready to be deployed immediately, especially if needed as backup in an emergency.
That's one of the definitions (of course, the one you would choose). Another definition is: adhere to or abide by something promised, stated, or decided. So when he asked the Proud Boys to stand back and stand by, he was asking them to stand back from the violence (and letting law enforcement do the work of keeping order) and stand by, or adhere to, the standing back.
So you'll claim that it’s actually Democrats and the left who incite racism by… bringing up racism.
I don't remember saying that, certainly not in that way. Constantly accusing people who are not racist of being racist can eventually lead to pushback.
It’s clever rhetoric — by claiming that progressives see everything as racist, then nothing ever can be.
Did I say that? It is clever. And on the surface, philosophically true. But "everything" is obviously an exaggeration. Rather, when any action, thought, or statement by a white person involving another race or person of that race is perceived as some injustice against or oppression of that person or that race, even if the action or thought or words are not about race, nor are intended to be so, nor, perhaps, even intended to be injurious, yet can be called racism, then anything a white person says or does in reference to another race can be called racism. So the word then loses any coherent meaning.
The truth is far more clear-cut.
Trump says Mexicans are rapists, that white supremacists are “very fine people,” and that Muslims don’t belong in America.
He never said any of those things. You universalize his statements or are just lying. He didn't say All Mexicans are rapists. Far from it. You persist on claiming that he said white supremacists are very fine people, but he never did. Check post #174 for his view on white supremacists. And he didn't say ALL Muslims, nor Muslims in general or per se.
He believes protesters should be roughed up,
He didn't say that. See there you go applying a universal to a particular. When you don't qualify protesters as specific ones, you deliberately imply all. And when you don't qualify a particular "protester" as also being an unruly "disrupter" who refuses to be civil or leave rather than peaceful and orderly, you imply that such a person is faultless. Perhaps he shouldn't be "roughed up," just forcefully removed--which might take some roughing up.
that majority-Black neighborhoods are dangerous,
Probably an exaggeration, depending on the meaning of dangerous. Are you claiming that most black neighborhoods are not statistically more dangerous than most white neighborhoods.
and that the exonerated Central Park Five are guilty.
They were exonerated of the rape charge, not the rest of the mayhem charges.
The president doesn’t need to yell a racial slur for us to know he’s a racist — his dog whistles relay the same message while giving himself and his supporters plausible deniability and a semblance of honesty.
#175 is the post I quoted
This dog whistle nonsense is a convenient way of not having to verify a claim. I mistakenly said post #175. I meant post #174. If you check post #174 you will have his actual words, not some mysterious dog whistles, about racism and white supremacy.
Here's a little more Proud Boy info for you
Only hours after President Donald Trump gave a debate-stage nod to the extremist group the Proud Boys he’s now claiming he doesn’t know who they are.
“I don’t know who the Proud Boys are. You’ll have to give me a definition because I really don’t know who they are,” Trump told reporters on Wednesday.
One could assume that nobody in the White House discussed this among other things re the debate with him since the event, if you are really obtuse.
However even if you accept that nobody in his political sphere said anything about his comment on the Proud Boys, his connection to his old friend, political operative Roger Stone, suggests otherwise.
Stone has long been a supporter of the violent group which describes itself as “Western chauvinists” and “anti-white guilt.”
The ADL reports that Stone has invited the groups leaders into his home, used them as private security at his events, accepted their support during his trial under the Mueller investigation and even allowed the group to share a video of him reciting their initiation mantra. “Hi, I’m Roger Stone. I’m a Western chauvinist, and I refuse to apologize for creating the modern world,” he said into the camera in a now-deleted YouTube video.
Earlier this summer, shortly before Trump commuted Stone’s prison sentence, Stone was kicked off Facebook as part of the social media giant’s investigation into the Proud Boys’ online activities. They found dozens of fictitious accounts linked to Stone which would post and comment on Proud Boys material to make it seem more popular than it is.
In addition, just last week the Honolulu Civil beat reported that Stone has endorsed Nick Ochs, founder of the Proud Boys’ Hawaii chapter, as a Republican candidate for Hawaii’s state legislature.
Stone is a close friend of the Proud Boys’ current leader Enrique Tarrio, who replaced the group’s founder Gavin McInnes. At a 2019 Trump rally in Miami, Tarrio had a high-profile seat directly behind the president where he wore a T-shirt which read “Roger Stone did nothing wrong.”
Enrique Tarrios is also head of the Florida chapter of Latinos for Trump, now given his current push in Florida with the Latin community, I would not be surprised to find that they have spoken.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, well you do prefer other peoples opinions about someone rather than what that person says. I'm not defending Proud Boys, but, like Trump, I didn't know who they are and what they are about until this nonsense about "stand back and stand by." But for a bit more balanced view, here's what they say about who they are and what they are for. https://100percentfedup.com/video-pr...-supremacists/
They are multi-racial being 10 to 20% non white, having black, latino, and asian members. From another source: the group’s website includes a list of core values as tenets: “Minimal Government, Maximum Freedom, Anti Political Correctness, Anti-Drug War, Closed Borders, Anti-Racial Guilt, Anti-Racism, Pro-Free Speech (1st Amendment), Pro-Gun Rights (2nd Amendment), Glorifying the Entrepreneur, Venerating the Housewife, Reinstating a Spirit of Western Chauvinism.”
Please respond to post #174. If after reading and watching it, you still claim that Trump is a white supremacist, or that he hasn't condemned them and racism, I sure would like to know why.