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Old 10-10-2021, 05:39 PM   #5
detbuch
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Originally Posted by Pete F. View Post
https://youtu.be/GAAeL0yFhNg
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This incestuous kind of journalism not only allows misinformation and disinformation, it pats itself on the back for spreading it. The video would have credibility if instead of just leftist NPR and New Yorker types it also included some or one right leaning journalist or even one who supported the idea of a "deep state" or shadow government or double government or national security state, which are other labels that are used to describe the same sort of thing, or even a "conservative" constitutionalist who preferred the term "administrative state" which is also a version of the real, unelected and mostly unchecked government within our federal system and which is actually more responsible for the regulations that govern us than the politicians we elect.

Your video discussion of whether or not a "deep state" exists concludes that it doesn't. That is, and this is the tricky key, it doesn't exist as Trump uses it. Well, that's hanging fruit right there. A whole lot of valid ideas may not exist in the way Trump expresses them. So the discussion revolves not around whether something exists that could be labeled "the deep state," rather it's a semantical dismissal of it being, in their opinion, incorrect usage. And one of them says that the term reminds one of a thuggish country like Turkey, but not the United States. It's not definitive to claim that it reminds them of something. (Although, come to think of it, it's sort of what you do, make enough comparisons to somehow make something look close enough to your desired depiction of Trump.)

One of the speakers in your video says that it is important to call out falsehoods. Then he falsely claims that the term has not substantially been used in the U.S. until Trump. They try to tie the political use of a "deep state" to Trump which, of course, in the eyes of their pre-conditioned peanut gallery, will disqualify the term as lies and propaganda. But the use of the terms "deep state" and the other related labels I mentioned predate Trump's campaign for the presidency. And they have been used to describe the symbiosis between military, intelligence, and other government agencies as well as large corporate interests and in coordination with major media which depends on otherwise undisclosed and often classified information being strategically leaked to selected reporters which facilitates the spreading of information and disinformation which creates the narratives needed to cover for and promote the agendas of the so-called "deep state" and its fellow labels.


You can find many articles, books, and videos on the use of the term "deep state" to describe the above government and corporate cabal mentioned above.
Here's a video by Bill Moyers, no right wing Trump boot licker, on the "deep state."

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/watch...hidi_b_4848282
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