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Originally Posted by wdmso
But You like other Trump supporters don’t get to separate Trumps deeds into convenient packages to excuse away his behaviors than claim he’s a poor victim or you like his policy’s. But your trying very hard .. this is not about knowing Trump personally it has no bearing on the conversation
I didn't create any packages, convenient or otherwise. I didn't "excuse away" (that's your loaded characterization) his behaviors. I didn't claim he is "a poor victim" (that's your loaded and deceptive verbiage). I'm not "trying very hard", I'm easily stating what I believe, not what that caricature of me in your head supposedly believes. Your hallucination of me may think his support is personally for Trump, but the actual me knows that I don't know Trump personally, but I preferred his policies over those of any Progressive party or Progressive politician.
I "support" him as a person only in how I support anyone who is falsely or unfairly accused--especially when it is meant to destroy him--and for the typical dirty political motive of gaining power.
So let me get this correct what happened on Jan 6th supported and encouraged by Trump and those around him
I presume the figment of me created by your myopically geared brain actually believes that Trump supported and encouraged the riot. I, the actual me, don't believe he encouraged and supported a riot, and that is the "correct" me that you are unable (or unwilling) to "get".
Yet You see people looking to hold Trump accountable. For Trumps actions and behaviors before during and after the elections and today as (non-objective politically loaded accusation)
The "You" who you claim is doing the seeing, is the fictional one in your head. The flesh and blood real "You" (me) doesn't view Trump's actions and behaviors to be same as how the "You" flailing about in your head sees them.
But Trumps action do not raise to be classified as “typical dirty political motive of gaining power.”
Interesting
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Setting aside that I never said that Trump was not capable of dirty political tricks to gain power, you may find the opinion of your imaginary me to be interesting. I find your perception of most things you've expressed on the political forum to be leftist media regurgitation.
And I've found that any invitation I've given you to truly discuss actual constitutionalism and the Progressive threat to it, is basically given short shrift or avoided. And, the real me, believes that is the pertinent political discussion to be had in our time. This focus on a constant delusional bickering about personalities (accurately or prejudicially portrayed) and which unconstitutionally based policies are the best or worst is the continued path to the destruction of our Republic, and the continued path to the replacement of the United States into the unitary United State. I think we ought to be discussing whether or not we should be protecting a system of limited government with separation of powers at the national level, and separation of powers between the national and local levels, and the ultimate separation of power between government and the individual.
As a little attempt to start such a discussion, I asked "If you wish to point out what was unconstitutional, or unoriginal [as in originalism] about what you consider Trump's attempt to "overthrow" the election". As I suspected, that is of no interest to you. It seems to be good enough for you to just say or imply that his actions are unconstitutional.