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					Originally Posted by wdmso  so at what point in a pregnancy Jim can a baby be removed from the womb and survive on its own. That’s viability
 
 
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 Please tell us how a newborn baby survives on its own?  It can feed itself, keep itself warm?
A newborn needs someone else to do almost everything for him, to keep him alive.  It's not remotely able to survive "on its own".  So why is a newborn, then, a human being?
It's pathetically easy top destroy every argument you can make.  You're just not holding ANY cards.  None.  I cannot lose this argument, not from a rational, logical perspective.