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chris L · 02-06-2004, 01:58 PM

romans were gay !

Tiberius:
Tiberius, who spends most of the later years of his reign as emperor – from AD 26 to 37 – on the island of Capri, is said to have a special penchant for his spintriae (groups of young boys), with whom he surrounds himself and indulges in all manner of promiscuous behaviour. The walls of his bedrooms at Capri are reported to be decorated with various sexual acts and positions 'in case a performer should need an illustration of what [is] required'. Suetonius even accuses him of putting 'unweaned babies ... to his organ as though to the breast', but many of these reports may be put down to propaganda by his numerous opponents.

Nero:
Nero's reported sexual activities range from being seduced by his mother Agrippina to forcing his unwanted attentions on married women and boys. Famously, he takes two homosexual lovers, Pythagoras and Sporus, in 'marriage'. Nero is said to behave as the wife to Pythagoras and husband to Sporus, whom he has had castrated. Taken together with his 'artistic' performances (see The arts), when he will often take on a female part and dress accordingly, Nero's behaviour scandalises Rome and plays an important part in his downfall.

Elagabalus:
There seems to be barely a Roman emperor whose reign is not coloured in some way by his sexual appetites – which are often prodigious in the extreme. Commodus, for example, emperor from AD 180 to 192, is said to have a harem of 300 girls and the same number of boys and to put on great orgies. But for sheer shock value, none can compare with the Syrian, Elagabalus, emperor from 218 to 222, who believes himself to be a living god.

Elagabalus is remarkable not only for being only 14 years old when he becomes absolute ruler of the Roman empire but also for his sexual activities while holding that office. In less than four years, he goes through three wives, including a Vestal Virgin – a heinous crime against Roman law, which states that any Vestal breaking her vows of chastity should be buried alive.

But even more shocking in the eyes of respectable Roman society is his 'marriage' to a slave named Hierocles. Elagabalus likes nothing better than to dress as a woman and go around with his 'husband', who is even encouraged to beat the emperor as if he is his real wife. Sometimes Elagabalus plays out scenes in which Hierocles finds him with another man and punishes him for his 'infidelity'.

'For he wished to have the reputation of committing adultery, so that in this respect, too, he might imitate the most lewd women; and he would often allow himself to be caught in the very act, in consequence of which he used to be violently upbraided by his "husband" and beaten, so that he had black eyes.'
Cassius Dio

Elagabalus is also known to frequent the brothels of Rome, where he delights in performing the duties of the prostitutes. A confirmed transvestite, he is said to 'send out agents to search for those who [have] particularly large organs and bring them to the palace in order that he might enjoy their vigour'. He is also reported to have 'asked the physicians to contrive a woman's vagina in his body by means of an incision, promising them large sums for doing so'. It is hardly surprising that the Praetorian Guard finally runs out of patience and kills him.

with strange bathing habits " The wife of Emperor Nero had 500 asses to supply the milk for her baths" I dont even have one ass that gives milk !

One of the Bible verses most frequently cited by conservative, anti-gay Christians occurs in the Letter to the Romans, generally attributed — except for its final verses — to the Apostle Paul, Romans 1:26-27:

(26) “For this reason, God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural,” (27) “and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error.” (Revised Standard Version)

02-06-2004, 01:58 PM	#114
chris L Registered User iTrader: (0) Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: in a structure with a roof Posts: 6,049	romans were gay ! Tiberius: Tiberius, who spends most of the later years of his reign as emperor – from AD 26 to 37 – on the island of Capri, is said to have a special penchant for his spintriae (groups of young boys), with whom he surrounds himself and indulges in all manner of promiscuous behaviour. The walls of his bedrooms at Capri are reported to be decorated with various sexual acts and positions 'in case a performer should need an illustration of what [is] required'. Suetonius even accuses him of putting 'unweaned babies ... to his organ as though to the breast', but many of these reports may be put down to propaganda by his numerous opponents. Nero: Nero's reported sexual activities range from being seduced by his mother Agrippina to forcing his unwanted attentions on married women and boys. Famously, he takes two homosexual lovers, Pythagoras and Sporus, in 'marriage'. Nero is said to behave as the wife to Pythagoras and husband to Sporus, whom he has had castrated. Taken together with his 'artistic' performances (see The arts), when he will often take on a female part and dress accordingly, Nero's behaviour scandalises Rome and plays an important part in his downfall. Elagabalus: There seems to be barely a Roman emperor whose reign is not coloured in some way by his sexual appetites – which are often prodigious in the extreme. Commodus, for example, emperor from AD 180 to 192, is said to have a harem of 300 girls and the same number of boys and to put on great orgies. But for sheer shock value, none can compare with the Syrian, Elagabalus, emperor from 218 to 222, who believes himself to be a living god. Elagabalus is remarkable not only for being only 14 years old when he becomes absolute ruler of the Roman empire but also for his sexual activities while holding that office. In less than four years, he goes through three wives, including a Vestal Virgin – a heinous crime against Roman law, which states that any Vestal breaking her vows of chastity should be buried alive. But even more shocking in the eyes of respectable Roman society is his 'marriage' to a slave named Hierocles. Elagabalus likes nothing better than to dress as a woman and go around with his 'husband', who is even encouraged to beat the emperor as if he is his real wife. Sometimes Elagabalus plays out scenes in which Hierocles finds him with another man and punishes him for his 'infidelity'. 'For he wished to have the reputation of committing adultery, so that in this respect, too, he might imitate the most lewd women; and he would often allow himself to be caught in the very act, in consequence of which he used to be violently upbraided by his "husband" and beaten, so that he had black eyes.' Cassius Dio Elagabalus is also known to frequent the brothels of Rome, where he delights in performing the duties of the prostitutes. A confirmed transvestite, he is said to 'send out agents to search for those who [have] particularly large organs and bring them to the palace in order that he might enjoy their vigour'. He is also reported to have 'asked the physicians to contrive a woman's vagina in his body by means of an incision, promising them large sums for doing so'. It is hardly surprising that the Praetorian Guard finally runs out of patience and kills him. with strange bathing habits " The wife of Emperor Nero had 500 asses to supply the milk for her baths" I dont even have one ass that gives milk ! One of the Bible verses most frequently cited by conservative, anti-gay Christians occurs in the Letter to the Romans, generally attributed — except for its final verses — to the Apostle Paul, Romans 1:26-27: (26) “For this reason, God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural,” (27) “and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error.” (Revised Standard Version)