Played with some scraps for a spell, and now I am ready to give it a go.. ordered some maple for needles, thats what I'm gonna stick to for a while as they are my favorite, and I like 'em to sink... so..... I remembered an old needle I lost, that was hand made, cast real well was heavy in the butt, and had a phat belly, ( I know, weird needle
) So based on what I remembered, here is what I came up with... have not swum it, gonna finish it, then swim it in the pond, when the ice is out.