[relentless]

Ronnie,

You have beens spending too much time out in the boat and I recommend you get some sunscreen. Your facts are wrong about being winners. Oakland Raiders have been to Superbowls II, XI and XXXVI. They did beat the Vikings in Superbowl XI. My fuzzy math tells me they have been to three Superbowls and won one.

Now let's look at the Patriots Ronnie. They have been to Superbowl XX, XXXI, XXXVI and XXXVIII. They did loose the first two and won XXXVII after beating the Raiders in the snow bowl and also won against the Panthers in XXXVIII.

This means the Patriots have been to one more superbowl than the Raiders and also won one more superbowl. I guess this means that the Patriots have been Champions more often then the Raiders over your last 30 years.

Dave