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Mr. Sandman · 12-12-2004, 01:38 PM

I use a choker (one with the claws that dig in when yanked)
I have a standard choke chain too and ithad limited effect. My wife took here to a puppy class here and the dog trainer said...here, you need this because the choker wasn't doing it. For my previous dog, the choker was all she needed. Actually I do like this claw chain better, it sounds mean but I think its more effective, releases better and puts less stress on her neck and she is now pretty good (not perfect but good) on a leash. It is when she is off the leash outside that it is a problem.

I want her to be off the leash most of the time. My old dog would come and obey commands at any distance but this animal is like a unbroken horse off the leash. Put the leash on and she stays at your side.

I let her run on the beach this time of year to burn off some steam but around the yard I need distance control.

Yes the unit has 10 level settings for pain and is waterproof (another plus) I told my wife she either listens to me all the time no matter what or she is history. And I am not kidding. The next step is a boarding school, then up for adoption....just like I tell my kids.

After re-reading your post perhaps I need to get her dead on balls perfect on the leash....we are not there yet.

12-12-2004, 01:38 PM	#3
Mr. Sandman Registered User iTrader: (0) Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 7,649	I use a choker (one with the claws that dig in when yanked) I have a standard choke chain too and ithad limited effect. My wife took here to a puppy class here and the dog trainer said...here, you need this because the choker wasn't doing it. For my previous dog, the choker was all she needed. Actually I do like this claw chain better, it sounds mean but I think its more effective, releases better and puts less stress on her neck and she is now pretty good (not perfect but good) on a leash. It is when she is off the leash outside that it is a problem. I want her to be off the leash most of the time. My old dog would come and obey commands at any distance but this animal is like a unbroken horse off the leash. Put the leash on and she stays at your side. I let her run on the beach this time of year to burn off some steam but around the yard I need distance control. Yes the unit has 10 level settings for pain and is waterproof (another plus) I told my wife she either listens to me all the time no matter what or she is history. And I am not kidding. The next step is a boarding school, then up for adoption....just like I tell my kids. After re-reading your post perhaps I need to get her dead on balls perfect on the leash....we are not there yet. Last edited by Mr. Sandman; 12-12-2004 at 01:50 PM..