Tinman, I'm not sure what lip it is, but I picked it up from njtackle at the msba show last year.
I'll include a picture of it next to some danny 2's that I got from you last month, maybe you can tell what it is from the picture.
And you were right on with why I was asking, just trying to avoid the wire bending if possible.
The lip resembles a danny in that it doesn;t flare out like a pikie, but the angle is very different than the danny2 ??