Thanks gents
Steelhead, I believe those are Atom type lips on the jointed ones. Got a batch from Bernzy a while back and finally found a good use for them.
Flap, I've done some stuff in the color for some guys on the Cape. Various plugs (needles, swimmers, poppers). Have not tried doing a larger sized jointed, sounds like I should concider it if I'm headed to the Cape this year
Jigman