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schoolie monster · 02-26-2002, 02:23 PM

Oh yah, here we go.

You know, when you're relatively comfortable, I think you tend to ignore these things. But when you start to think about it in simpler terms, you just get pissed off.

I know things aren't this simple, but isn't the idea of the communist form of government to basically take all the money and make everyone equal?

Well, what do you call it when the government takes 40% of everything you earn? 16 of your 40 hours per week, we're working for someone else. I have taxes taken out of my pay. I pay taxes for my property, my vehicles (excise tax), I pay taxes when I buy clothes or go out to eat.

And the only thing bi-partisan about the whole tax issue, is where the money goes. And tax cuts? I'm not trying to start a political battle because I'm an issue guy, not a party guy. But when the republicans promise a tax cut, look at the programs they want to get rid of... alot of times, conservation issues suffer badly at the hands of republican tax cuts. That's a big issue for me. And big money get the biggest breaks, not working folks like us.

But dudes, when I hear that someone can immigrate to this country and get on freakin' welfare... that makes me sick too. This ain't a charity. I would like my money to go towards my family. Not to some lady who has 6 kids and keeps having more because she gets more assistance.

I just think the scary thing is that you get conditioned to accept these things. Its only a 1% increase... then in 10 years its 10%! We've gotta watch.

When do we rise up... when they take 50%? How do we make our voices be heard? By voting? They still control who we chose from. Two parties equally evil. Why can't we just vote on issues? I have to chose the liars from this side because I strongly support these couple issues. I support ideas from both sides, but my passions force me to support the democrats. Do I like the candidates or support all their ideas? Not even close.

When there are so many issues, how can a two party system possibly work... and you can't tell me its not a two party system. If I vote anyone other than rep or dem, does my vote count? It may make a small statement, but realistically it doesn't affect the outcome. So I am forced to pick from a lesser of two evils... that sucks.

Not enough people look at the issues... the election fiasco proved that. How many peoople presented unbiased arguements for their cause. Most people cannot see past their party lines. As long as that is the case, and people just vote for a party, nothing will change. We will have minimal power to affect change. From huge issues...

... to issues such as this license. Even on a localized level, it seems like the people's voice isn't heard. Are we making a bigger issue out of this than we should? Most people might laugh at Saltheart and Chris bringing up the revolution... or Fishpart talking about a labor uprising...

Over a fishing license? We must be nuts.

No, its just symptomatic of the BS that seems to be gaining momentum from year to year. The people in power seem to get bolder and bolder, while we sit back fat and happy, and get quieter and quieter.

I'm not preaching 'cause I'm as guilty as the next guy. But its the truth. We allow too much... taxation without true representation, invasions of our privacy (not on a gov't level... I'm talking in a business sense... aka-10 telemarketing calls per night, 20 spam emails a day), getting screwed by big companies that don't honor their products or business practices, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Whew, let me step down from my soapbox... I get a bit rowdy over these issues.

ps... good post Steve. I hate when they use political potty mouth BS to try and cloud the issues. Fuzzy math, fuzzy english, fuzzy history... its all fuzzy BS to try anything to avoid telling the truth.

I love this country... and recent events have shown that we can still be great. Its still the best there is... a nation of this size. But we need to make changes.

02-26-2002, 02:23 PM	#9
schoolie monster Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 1,195	Oh yah, here we go. You know, when you're relatively comfortable, I think you tend to ignore these things. But when you start to think about it in simpler terms, you just get pissed off. I know things aren't this simple, but isn't the idea of the communist form of government to basically take all the money and make everyone equal? Well, what do you call it when the government takes 40% of everything you earn? 16 of your 40 hours per week, we're working for someone else. I have taxes taken out of my pay. I pay taxes for my property, my vehicles (excise tax), I pay taxes when I buy clothes or go out to eat. And the only thing bi-partisan about the whole tax issue, is where the money goes. And tax cuts? I'm not trying to start a political battle because I'm an issue guy, not a party guy. But when the republicans promise a tax cut, look at the programs they want to get rid of... alot of times, conservation issues suffer badly at the hands of republican tax cuts. That's a big issue for me. And big money get the biggest breaks, not working folks like us. But dudes, when I hear that someone can immigrate to this country and get on freakin' welfare... that makes me sick too. This ain't a charity. I would like my money to go towards my family. Not to some lady who has 6 kids and keeps having more because she gets more assistance. I just think the scary thing is that you get conditioned to accept these things. Its only a 1% increase... then in 10 years its 10%! We've gotta watch. When do we rise up... when they take 50%? How do we make our voices be heard? By voting? They still control who we chose from. Two parties equally evil. Why can't we just vote on issues? I have to chose the liars from this side because I strongly support these couple issues. I support ideas from both sides, but my passions force me to support the democrats. Do I like the candidates or support all their ideas? Not even close. When there are so many issues, how can a two party system possibly work... and you can't tell me its not a two party system. If I vote anyone other than rep or dem, does my vote count? It may make a small statement, but realistically it doesn't affect the outcome. So I am forced to pick from a lesser of two evils... that sucks. Not enough people look at the issues... the election fiasco proved that. How many peoople presented unbiased arguements for their cause. Most people cannot see past their party lines. As long as that is the case, and people just vote for a party, nothing will change. We will have minimal power to affect change. From huge issues... ... to issues such as this license. Even on a localized level, it seems like the people's voice isn't heard. Are we making a bigger issue out of this than we should? Most people might laugh at Saltheart and Chris bringing up the revolution... or Fishpart talking about a labor uprising... Over a fishing license? We must be nuts. No, its just symptomatic of the BS that seems to be gaining momentum from year to year. The people in power seem to get bolder and bolder, while we sit back fat and happy, and get quieter and quieter. I'm not preaching 'cause I'm as guilty as the next guy. But its the truth. We allow too much... taxation without true representation, invasions of our privacy (not on a gov't level... I'm talking in a business sense... aka-10 telemarketing calls per night, 20 spam emails a day), getting screwed by big companies that don't honor their products or business practices, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. Whew, let me step down from my soapbox... I get a bit rowdy over these issues. ps... good post Steve. I hate when they use political potty mouth BS to try and cloud the issues. Fuzzy math, fuzzy english, fuzzy history... its all fuzzy BS to try anything to avoid telling the truth. I love this country... and recent events have shown that we can still be great. Its still the best there is... a nation of this size. But we need to make changes. Last edited by schoolie monster; 02-26-2002 at 02:28 PM..