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Old 09-22-2005, 03:02 PM   #2
SeaWolf
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bloo - unfortunately, if a town puts up trash cans, they need to empty them constantly. people other than fisherman use them and abuse them. fishermen should be responsible and pick up THEIR OWN TRASH! few do and many walk right by garbage in the rocks. sad...

jimmyct - you should know some of what's been talked about here. i've seen you put "x's" yourself on spots, put up mapquests for a location, give detailed explanations on how to fish a spot, have pictures of the spot, and where to cast. what have you really taught that person? how about that group that now fishes there since you have done that? what have they learned? how to read the internet and now come back for more. tackle shops do give out reports and some have changed their reports after being talked to. and, do you really think all of them are truthful? they are in it for the money as they own a biz. when they give a report to a customer, it is usually a thank you for shopping there and come back again. that's business. if you post details up on a spot for 10 of your close friends, guess what, 200 more are lurking those same boards and are now fishing next to you that night. again, what have they learned? to sit in front of their computer and wait for today's "hot spot"? magazines, how old are those reports? a week? month? i care to disagree w/ your interpretation of, "The large majority of decent fishermen out there have no opinon or care about this type of topic.", as we are seeing in this thread just how much it does in fact mean to some. some have never registered before and are for the first time to chime in. some haven't posted in weeks or months and did.

there is a reason it is called fishing and not catching. by posting detailed reports you only are adding to the "catching" part of that phrase for that angler. they may or may not ever learn the "fishing" part of it. they sure as heck will not learn the ethics rules that some have talked about already.

i will help another angler after seeing them a few times and seeing them being unsuccessful. i see them trying to learn. that's different than someone coming down to a spot after reading it on the net.

i think johnr even said one time that this site is to help out anglers to be better fishermen. being better fishermen includes learning how to fish from people that have been fishing for a while or are successful or bring new ideas. not those that post daily reports or detailed maps. as you said jimmy, the maps are out there, do some homework and be that better fishermen.

as far as this thread being too long, i disagree. many, many good points are being brought up and continue to be brought up. one of the points of this thread is to stop the next "steve mckenna" from writing something similar in the future or possibly on a forum. and, again, i am not trying to slam steve as i have yet to read the article, i'm trying to stop or ease the idea that detailed reports and detailed spots are not a good thing for our sport.

now, since some have mentioned access as an issue, 2 foods for thought. 1st, do you know how much public access is available in connecticut? that's an oxy-moron in ct! e extremely thankful for what you have in ri and mass. now, next, how many people here belong to risaa? if you do, dont you know that there is a right-of-way committee? how many are part of it? last time i went, not too many. why dont you help and learn what issues are involved with public access/right-of-ways and help out instead of complaining here when it's taken away.
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