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I've given up on it . . . I've tried Ande, Seaguar, Mirage, and others I don't recall - the common them with all of them is (in my experience) they shred . . . abrashion resistence stinks and as soon as I see one shred I change out the rig - wasted too much time - I'm back to Jinkai mono - even chunkin' tuna in the daylight.
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