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Zimmy - I hope eco system based management is possible and soon and I hold a little higher hope. Unfotunately, on some issues like MPAs, often the directive, even among scientists and pro env groups, is political. Shutting down permanently vast areas in the name of science is far different than doing it scientifically or to support a need or goal. If an area needs to be shut down to a certain gear type - do it. If it needs to be shut down to all, OK provided that there are reasonable, pre-defined triggers to open it up.... Ooops - sidetracking...
I agree - recs take most of the fish and all groups can reduce their take.
As for the size - probably is a lot bigger than we think and probably more offshore than we think but if we are always focusing inshore we are likely losely consistant with the data on a year to year basis...
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