I pm'd BM will He get mad at Me

a few side notes I would say 8" is styling for needles
and found that a blue and purple needle smoked them last fall.
along with an OJ olive and white.
for those making a few try this olive back gold sides and silver or pearl belly and a tad of black around the eyes with a dot of red on the bottom of the plug, or If You have an air brush that can do hair lines You can do gill plates in red to make it look sweet.
I would say You can needle here on the sands starting in mid June....
Hi Bill
