Thanks all. seems like great advice. I don't know that the Ande rod is complete crap, though-(it looked and felt a hell of a lot like a mislabled tsunami
but I'll seek out the Tica and try it. I'm definitely going for the ebay 704(z maybe). Thanks again to everyone for pitching in their 2 cents. Any thoughts about the greenies vs. the Z series? How are these with Braid? Thanks in advance.