Feelin much much better, Thanks...
Kidney Stones, and Acute Diviticulitis at the same time...
but, a week of Cipro, and pushing gravel thru a, er, straw, knocked it all out, and almost me too, that chit rips yer insides out.
Think I'd rather take a beating from Peter Manfredo, prolly hurt less

some diet changes, for both of those, will do the trick, I hope, don't want either one back too soon....