btw - I have used the Okumas with the 10 bearings, but not the bait runner model. Good reel for the price, decently smooth. My only gripe is the finnish will take a beating, but that's OK, it's too shiny anyway

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Clammer & I were supposed to get together our thoughts on these reels after using them for a few months, but things have come up for both of us.... We both feel that it is a smooth reel with decent components ad is a good value for the dollar. Would I prefer a Shimano Stradic? Yep, but you can but 2 of the Okumas for the price of on Stradic. Something to be said there...