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Mr. Sandman · 07-06-2002, 08:54 AM

Stocks are up to the point now, breeding numbers were never higher. If every fish were to be able to spawn at least once before they could be caught the fishery would continue to grow. (do the math) This results in a 4 year old fish or about 28 inches.(more or less) I am in favor of a multi fish (2 or 3) 36" limit (allowing each fish to spawn several times). But IMO the commerical aspect has to stop completely. The REAL HARM comes when the undersize fish die in nets or are tossed back dead because they can't be sold. These fish NEVER get the chance to spawn and this results millions of potential fish each year that never swim and far exceeds the entire annual sport catch.

This is really just a big political problem, everyone knows what *should* be done, just knowone has the balls to do it.

it simple:
1) No commerical market for bass
2) sport catch size limit such that each fish spawns at least once before caught be caught. (36" allows for several spawnings,)
3) keep the water clean
4) allow for a reasonable catch limit (2+)
5) push catch and release
6) make it a coast wide law. <-------- this is the tough one because you need the feds to do it and they think it is a states problem. The states will never agree.

IMO, If this was in force, there would be a sustainable population of bass forever, the sport catch would be insignificant and the population would grow at an amazing rate. Neary every fish born would spawn 2 or more times, the growth rate (of the fishery)would be amazing now that there is a substantial breeding stock.

I understand that the big fish have many more eggs then the smaller fish but I but my faith in the numbers. I would rather have 10 fish spawning 10,000,000 eggs then 1 fish spawning 10,000,000 eggs. There is safety in numbers, that is why fish swim in schools :-)

With regard to the NY study... I take issue with a few of statements. Genetically the fish is not changed when you take a 36" fish, that is absolute nonsence, anyone with a science background will see through this.
Further, the heavy metal situation is no where as bad as it was in the 60's, you should be more concerned about eating frank perdue's hormone laced giant chickens (which IMO have caused young girls to over develop at an early age) (chickens are not suppose be 15+ pounds with 90% of that breast meat!)
Further still, one can make a good argument that you don't wnat the larger "heavy metal contaminated" fish breeding (with regard to long term genetic problems). I would like to see ALL fish breed a few times prior to catch.

Back on track....
Sorry for all my opinions but I am convinced that by eliminating the commerial catch and keeping the waters as clean as possible, the problem will be 95% solved. How do you get from here to there is the question.

07-06-2002, 08:54 AM	#7
Mr. Sandman Registered User iTrader: (0) Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 7,649	Stocks are up to the point now, breeding numbers were never higher. If every fish were to be able to spawn at least once before they could be caught the fishery would continue to grow. (do the math) This results in a 4 year old fish or about 28 inches.(more or less) I am in favor of a multi fish (2 or 3) 36" limit (allowing each fish to spawn several times). But IMO the commerical aspect has to stop completely. The REAL HARM comes when the undersize fish die in nets or are tossed back dead because they can't be sold. These fish NEVER get the chance to spawn and this results millions of potential fish each year that never swim and far exceeds the entire annual sport catch. This is really just a big political problem, everyone knows what should be done, just knowone has the balls to do it. it simple: 1) No commerical market for bass 2) sport catch size limit such that each fish spawns at least once before caught be caught. (36" allows for several spawnings,) 3) keep the water clean 4) allow for a reasonable catch limit (2+) 5) push catch and release 6) make it a coast wide law. <-------- this is the tough one because you need the feds to do it and they think it is a states problem. The states will never agree. IMO, If this was in force, there would be a sustainable population of bass forever, the sport catch would be insignificant and the population would grow at an amazing rate. Neary every fish born would spawn 2 or more times, the growth rate (of the fishery)would be amazing now that there is a substantial breeding stock. I understand that the big fish have many more eggs then the smaller fish but I but my faith in the numbers. I would rather have 10 fish spawning 10,000,000 eggs then 1 fish spawning 10,000,000 eggs. There is safety in numbers, that is why fish swim in schools :-) With regard to the NY study... I take issue with a few of statements. Genetically the fish is not changed when you take a 36" fish, that is absolute nonsence, anyone with a science background will see through this. Further, the heavy metal situation is no where as bad as it was in the 60's, you should be more concerned about eating frank perdue's hormone laced giant chickens (which IMO have caused young girls to over develop at an early age) (chickens are not suppose be 15+ pounds with 90% of that breast meat!) Further still, one can make a good argument that you don't wnat the larger "heavy metal contaminated" fish breeding (with regard to long term genetic problems). I would like to see ALL fish breed a few times prior to catch. Back on track.... Sorry for all my opinions but I am convinced that by eliminating the commerial catch and keeping the waters as clean as possible, the problem will be 95% solved. How do you get from here to there is the question. Last edited by Mr. Sandman; 07-06-2002 at 09:24 AM..