4 times???? EVER???? patience daniel son ....patience!!!!!! if there is one thing I have learned its patience......someone could catch fish for three weeks straight in the same place same time same bait and same technique...........I could go there tommorrow do all these same exact things and not catch a thing..........
best advice I have ever gotten??????? move! if its not working.....try a different lure/bait/etc....if they dont work.....MOVE! for too long I just didnt take this advice very seriously.............but I'sa gettin there.....
