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Mr. Sandman · 08-08-2002, 09:39 AM

I admit I have not been to a meeting in years and I have no plans on ever attending again. They are commerical fishing baised,like you said, even the rec's are commerical for 5 weeks...yeah thats fair. Back in the "old days" when we had no striped bass to speak of and there were real problems, I attended in RI and now and then on the cape and CT . Rec's were there in force. I remember lots of screaming and yelling and even fights in the parking lots...thats why I stopped going. It was just an ugly mob scene at times. Rec's wanted to shut it down...who was doing the yelling to keep the commerical activity open....give me a break You guys wanted to fish it to the death until you got the last one.

You can spin this anyway you like but IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY and not the FISH.

I am sick of it. The lic fees are a complete and utter joke. Any tom #^&#^&#^&#^& or harry with a boston whaler can affort your measly 160 bucks, get the deduction (there are ways to keep this going forever, just like every other business that looses money on paper) and then he could fish his brains out.

There should be NO SUCH THING as a 5 week commerical fisherman. If you don't make a year round living from commerical fishing you should not be able to get a the sb license. This is a sham. It draws in rec's with the lure of $ and tax savings on fishing gear boats and fuel to expand the commerical fishing season. I hope the IRS cracks down on this. Frankly I think you have to pro-rate the time your equipment is used for commerical fishing ....like the mixed use of a business car. If your fishing only 5/52 weeks per year your tax deduction is lame.

Fishing for striped bass should not be subsidized by the gov't or done for profit, that is not what fishing for bass is about. Just because you did it in the past does NOT mean you have the right to do it now. It should be made a game fish. Frankly IMO there should be NO commerical fishing for anything within 10 miles of any land. ALL inshore fish should be protected from commerical fishing. Inshore fishing by its very nature is a recreation activity for the entire public not to be exploited by a few for personal gain.

As I said before, since it is so easy and so cheap to obtain some licence to exploit the fishery, everyone should do it to make the point that the system is flawed. I mean it, next season I am out there and I will catch what I can until the season is shut down. You will be reading my dairy in a national newspaper. This activity will stop.

You commerical fish this fish, you will wipe it out again, and the really sad part is that the commerical guys will blame it on the rec's. The fish count is down last year and you want to increase your take this year. Tell me there is no greed and it is not about the $....

I will admit a lot of figures (probably most of which are wrong) are tossed about. On reason it is difficult to get the real facts.

Here are a few fact links...

http://www.asmfc.org/Programs/Fish%2...ass%20Regs.pdf

http://www.mde.state.md.us/enpa/1999...htms/d5_gr.htm

Yes that picture was old but Haul-seine and gill netting still goes on today...although it is regulated. Everyone knows it wrong and should be shut down altogether but no one has the nads to do it.
MA is only a small part of the problem. look at the take for MD.
There are Differences state to state.

http://www.dnr.state.md.us/fisheries...onitoring.html

http://www.dnr.state.md.us/fisheries...sonsquotas.htm

an interesting has both sides:
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/lo...-bass513.story

Look, I don't like fighting about this I would rather fish. I don't have the time nor the desire to go to some meeting with a bunch of guys to argue about this. There is just no good reason to fish for this thing on a commerical scale. (besides money...and THAT is a shame) .

08-08-2002, 09:39 AM	#8
Mr. Sandman Registered User iTrader: (0) Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 7,649	I admit I have not been to a meeting in years and I have no plans on ever attending again. They are commerical fishing baised,like you said, even the rec's are commerical for 5 weeks...yeah thats fair. Back in the "old days" when we had no striped bass to speak of and there were real problems, I attended in RI and now and then on the cape and CT . Rec's were there in force. I remember lots of screaming and yelling and even fights in the parking lots...thats why I stopped going. It was just an ugly mob scene at times. Rec's wanted to shut it down...who was doing the yelling to keep the commerical activity open....give me a break You guys wanted to fish it to the death until you got the last one. You can spin this anyway you like but IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY and not the FISH. I am sick of it. The lic fees are a complete and utter joke. Any tom #^&#^&#^&#^& or harry with a boston whaler can affort your measly 160 bucks, get the deduction (there are ways to keep this going forever, just like every other business that looses money on paper) and then he could fish his brains out. There should be NO SUCH THING as a 5 week commerical fisherman. If you don't make a year round living from commerical fishing you should not be able to get a the sb license. This is a sham. It draws in rec's with the lure of $ and tax savings on fishing gear boats and fuel to expand the commerical fishing season. I hope the IRS cracks down on this. Frankly I think you have to pro-rate the time your equipment is used for commerical fishing ....like the mixed use of a business car. If your fishing only 5/52 weeks per year your tax deduction is lame. Fishing for striped bass should not be subsidized by the gov't or done for profit, that is not what fishing for bass is about. Just because you did it in the past does NOT mean you have the right to do it now. It should be made a game fish. Frankly IMO there should be NO commerical fishing for anything within 10 miles of any land. ALL inshore fish should be protected from commerical fishing. Inshore fishing by its very nature is a recreation activity for the entire public not to be exploited by a few for personal gain. As I said before, since it is so easy and so cheap to obtain some licence to exploit the fishery, everyone should do it to make the point that the system is flawed. I mean it, next season I am out there and I will catch what I can until the season is shut down. You will be reading my dairy in a national newspaper. This activity will stop. You commerical fish this fish, you will wipe it out again, and the really sad part is that the commerical guys will blame it on the rec's. The fish count is down last year and you want to increase your take this year. Tell me there is no greed and it is not about the $.... I will admit a lot of figures (probably most of which are wrong) are tossed about. On reason it is difficult to get the real facts. Here are a few fact links... http://www.asmfc.org/Programs/Fish%2...ass%20Regs.pdf http://www.mde.state.md.us/enpa/1999...htms/d5_gr.htm Yes that picture was old but Haul-seine and gill netting still goes on today...although it is regulated. Everyone knows it wrong and should be shut down altogether but no one has the nads to do it. MA is only a small part of the problem. look at the take for MD. There are Differences state to state. http://www.dnr.state.md.us/fisheries...onitoring.html http://www.dnr.state.md.us/fisheries...sonsquotas.htm an interesting has both sides: http://www.newsday.com/news/local/lo...-bass513.story Look, I don't like fighting about this I would rather fish. I don't have the time nor the desire to go to some meeting with a bunch of guys to argue about this. There is just no good reason to fish for this thing on a commerical scale. (besides money...and THAT is a shame) .