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Originally Posted by Flaptail
Tony I luv ya but without knowing the whole story your tirade here is way out of line. Gibbs makes a goog plug so does John but if we want to speak the truth here then so be it. Gibbs has on hand about between 9 and 10 thousand plugs in stock at all times. Done and ready for shipment, Someone else does not and can't ship regurlarly when customers demand needles and such, he is always up against the wall. He works 80 hours a week and is still behind and needs to hire competent help to help him out or he is gonna burn out fast and I think he is halfway there. I would hate to see that happen as that would be the end of HABS PLUGS!He makes an awesome plug and decidedly has the needlefish market in his grasp but if shops can't get them then what are they to do? VMC CANNOT SHIP in the numbers and with the reliability that Mustad, who is made in the USA still, can, Never has been able too and thats a fact, very fragmented. Shop owners will tell you the same.
Gibbs uses the same wire supplier that stan did and uses sugar pine at 8% moisture content and no knots which is very expensive. The Gibbs guys bought and run the company so that it would not go out of business, they will tell you that.
And lastly if you can come up with a truely "original" design in a plug these days I will blow you on YOUR town hall steps in NJ! It's all been done before and there ain't one plug maker out there that doesn't have problems in production or quality or components in way way shape or form. Reality what a concept heh?  |
Not really a inside info guy.All that BS makes no nevermind to me.This ain't about habs or bm or anyone else against Gibbs.So please don't read it as a tirade.My statements where regarding thier (Gibbs) plugs only.In response to the question asked in the begining of the thread.Perhaps I chime in to often on the merits Of Habs plugs thats why it seems that way.He makes a good plug plain an simple.Gibbs product on the other hand Is NOT a good product.Plain an simple.If they have 9k on hand maybe they need to make less an pay better attention.
Same wire supplier different wire.Take a old one a check it out for urself.I just did it along with a BM like capesams said. An I am correct.Not the same.I could live with the hook thing as I am used to changin em out.How bout the swivels.
Listen I like the whole history thing with Stan. I can appreciate what he did.I also appreciate what the new guys are trying to do if what they say is right.In fact,I confronted him at The Rissa show about blatently copyin Habs 3 oz needle.I went there with a head of steam an left a puppy dog. The guy is a good guy.I couldn't do it.I still won't buy one.
Ok they Use sugar pine how about sealing it.
No need for the last part.I ain't making anything new.
I am a realist. My statements come from my own occurances or ones witnessed first hand. Perhaps ur the one blinded by history.It's not a bad thing.I know u new Stan well.This should bother u more than I.Oh ya I still love ya also.