try a 4 oz red dot sinking Cordell
let sink a few feet ... pull up top quick....let sink.... pull up.... lots of hits on the drop.
or let sink and slow swim it back with small jiggles here and there.....
Good in a heavy surf
With regular pencils I had more luck when searching by a slow swim with small twitches and pauses.....but in a frenzy just make it go crazy.