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Off the pier I've mostly used a 6' freshwater rod throwing 1+1/4 ounce metal . hopkins,castmaster,diamond jig,deadly #^&#^&#^&#^&... They're in and out ,, never felt like throwing a tree all day .. Tin foil off your cigarrete pack on the hook works .. After you catch a mackerel you can bait fish them with a bobber and mackerel for bait . A strip of mackerel skin works great . In the ditch do it thier way... long rod with a tree
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